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yes, in both scenerio NFHS 4-15-4c; 4-15-2
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Nope, there's nothing illegal about the first scenario. It's not an illegal dribble until A1 touches it again after ending his original dribble. Deecee has the right answer.
Rule 9-5.
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I beg to differ. A dribble is started by pushing the ball to the floor (4-15-3). It doesn't say you have to touch it again for it to be a dribble. If you judge that the player was dribbling - violation.
Check out case 4.15.4 Situation A. Note that the violation occurs when A1 pushes the ball to the floor, not when A1 catches it after it hits the floor.
Z
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However a pass is when a player throws, bats or rolls the ball to another player.
If a player bats the ball how do you differentiate between a pass & a dribble?
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Based on 4.15.4 Situation A, I'd say that a referee's judgment is required.
Z
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So I can judge a bounce pass is a double dribble?
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You could, but it would be pretty poor judgement. I'm not trying to be a jerk. How do you interpret 4.15.4 Sit A?
Z
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You agree it's bad judgement yet you still focus on the words in 4.15.4 sit A.
If you were comfortable with the words then you would have no problem with the occasional bounce pass being whistled as an illegal dribble.
So, to answer your question: I don't care what 4.15.4 sit A says, it does not reflect the intent of the rules.
If A1 bats the ball to the ground after he's used his dribble I do not have an illegal dribble until he "completes" the dribble by touching it again. That is because I must eliminate the possibility that A1 passed the ball, which is perfectly legal.