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Old Mon Sep 12, 2005, 12:26am
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Originally posted by wisref2
I'm glad the discussion went this way. In my case that started this thread, the timeout request was pretty much at the same time as I was calling the foul - and I gave him a break.

In regards to the timeout coming before we notice they have 12. I agree with not calling it. But let me play devil's advocate.......

We still have a violation - a replaced player did not leave immediately. There's nothing in the rule that lets the coach avoid the penalty with a timeout. So why are we going to let him do it?
Well, I guess one way to think about it is a foul becomes a penalty when an official sees it. So if a TO is called before we see a foul, we have no penalty. It would be like a block in the back that occured but was not seen, so even though we had a foul, we had no penalty. In this case, we did not see the IS, and then granted a TO, so now we do not have an IS anymore.

Remember, I said if I see it 1st we will have a penalty and maybe a TO after, but if I don't see the foul 1st, he gets the TO.
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