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Originally posted by BigGref
this was kind of our thought but then we thought that this play/foul (touchback) it was very unfair; R blocked the ball, muffed it around to and through the EZ and they are penalized, giving K the ball back doesn't make sense, they screwed up they lost 30 yds on the play, on 4th down, they didn't influence the ball at all, and then they get REWARDED?? with the ball 1st and 10? would the fact that K had not advanced past there line to gain even after the TB have an effect, thus making it Rs ball at Ks 20? Ideas
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But R made a mistake, although it was not a penalty, they caused the ball to become dead not in player possession behind their opponents goal line. The result of that mistake is their opponent gets the ball at their own 20. It is not a penalty, merely a result for an action. That action is the only action that has meaning. K kicks the ball, R blocks in or behind the neutral zone and it is ignored, R muffs a grounded kick supplying a new force to the ball which causes it to go into K's endzone where it becomes dead not in player possession. The only thing that matters is the part that starts "...supplying a new force..." R caused that to happen, K's bakk 1st and 10 at their own 20. If K had pitched it back and it was rolling around at the five, if R had intercepted it and run it back, fumbled and the ball was rolling around at the 5, or any other reason a live ball was rolling around at the 5, R's muff supplied a new force which caused the ball to go behind K's goal line where it became dead not in player possession.
5-1-1 Awards first down for the team to get the ball in play after a touchback.
8-5-4 Defines the team to get the ball after a touchback as the team whose goal line was involved.