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Originally posted by BillyMac
10) (Change) Palming or carrying is when a player gains an advantage when the hand is under the ball or when the ball rests in the hand. (Rule 4-15-4b). The part about the "hand under the ball" is by our Board #6 interpretation. We are taught by our interpreter that if the palm of the hand is facing the ceiling and if the dribbler is gaining an advantage, it's a carry (illegal dribble).
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Just a few comments on this one-fwiw......
Back about 20 years or so ago, we were all taught that if the dribbler's hand went past 90 degrees while in contact with the ball, we were then supposed to automatically call palming/carrying the ball. They even had a case book play put in for a while saying this. Then....they finally took that whole concept out because they discovered that it wasn't necessarily so. There was also a lot of discussion at that time about the "hand under the ball" idea too. One of the points that was brought up was that concept also didn't cover all situations either. One of the plays mentioned was a player "tapping" the ball upwards from below during a dribble- without touching the ball a second time before it hit the floor or letting the ball come to rest while tapping it. They put R4-15-2 into the book to clarify that particular case iirr. So... to then try and simplify the call for us dummies, they just changed it to a straight official's judgement as to whether the ball actually does come to rest in the dribbler's hand(R4-15-4a&b).
Just a l'il history(if I remember right- which isn't a lock by any means), and that's why I still don't agree with your interpreter about using the "hand under the ball" part. R4-15-2 already sez that statement is wrong.
Great idea and great job making this list up. Should save you a lot of headaches.
[Edited by Jurassic Referee on Aug 19th, 2005 at 10:19 PM]