Thu Aug 11, 2005, 11:34pm
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
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Originally posted by rainmaker
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
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Originally posted by rainmaker
When children have loving, attentive, mature adults around them to help them counteract the effects of a negative society, it isn't a huge problem. I'd guess that most Amish children fall into this category. Although many outsiders treat them like they're not very bright, and tend to belittle their culture, still the adults can lead the children in learning to see themselves as solid people with worth and dignity.
But many many Indian adults have never received this, and barely know how to live it, much less pass it on. For many Indian children the self-respect that we all need to grow into mature adults isn't very available.
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So you're saying that Amish people as a group are in this respect better than Native Americans?
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Well, I'm not sure whether I'm saying that or not. Better is a little bit of a judgment. I'm saying that the Amish culture hasn't been as devastated by outsiders as many of the Native American cultures have.
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OK, let's pull on this a while.
You say that Amish families are able to surround their children with loving, attentive, mature adults. And because of this the children are able to maintin their dignity and self-worth in spite of the insults from outsiders. And this allows them to grow into mature adults who will in turn be able to surround their children with loving, attentive, mature adults. And so on.
Surely this is a good thing.
Next you say that this characteristic is not commonly found in Native American families. Causing Native Amrericans to have less self-respect than say, Amish.
Surely having self respect is 'better' than not having self respect.
So you're saying that Amish people as a group are in this respect better than Native Americans?
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Well, what happens if I say yes? I mean, is this a loaded question?
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