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Originally posted by ljudge
OK, here's the correction from the fed site...
*9.6 COMMENT, Page 71: b: If a substitute enters the field during the down, but does not make any contact with an opponent or touch the ball and does not influence the play it is illegal participation and a live-ball foul enforced from the basic spot. (9-6-4a) NOTE: Based on the rules change, officials are strongly encouraged to make certain that the substitutes entry into the field had some impact on the play and was not incidental to viewing the game or simply being in the bench area.
The BOLD piece above is now CROSSED OUT on the fed's web page.
So, my question remains. If this happens during the original play I have stated then all-but-one does NOT apply and you have a basic spot (end of run) enforcement.
Assuming I'm correct then if the original play I described happened to be a score does the score stand, or is this treated as a live-ball player foul enforced from the goal line, 1st and 10 from the 15?
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Ljudge, by crossing out the bolded text above they are saying that it is a basic spot enforcement any time he comes into the field during a down, whether he makes contact or influences the play, or not. Notice also that in the rule book, a rule change in 2005 is 9-6-4-a states It is IP when any player, replaced player, or substitute enters during a down. The penalty enforcement for this is 15 from BS, and 9-6-4-b-f are PS enforcements. This was NOT in last years book. This is exactly why it is a BS enforcement, not succeeding or PS. I dont like it, but for this year we are stuck with it. That is exactly what the state supervisor I talked to said.
So in your original play, it is a basic spot enforcement from where the A player entered the field. We are going to have a BIG penalty. That is why I said if at all possible, say you saw him after he crossed the goal line. Then we would have a DB foul, enforced on the try.