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Old Tue Aug 02, 2005, 12:28pm
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by johnny1784
Just picture the play in which A1 and A2 set a double screen along the lane line against the end line. A3 is set up in the corner and A4 is swinging the ball around the perimeter to A5 who will get it to A3 for the shot. B1 desperately needs to get past the double screen set by A1 and A2, who MAY NOT STEP OOB, so B1 simply runs OOB and around them to get over to A3 in time to prevent the shot attempt.
This used to be a T on B1. It now appears that the most the official can do is stop the game and award the ball to Team A for an end line throw-in. Not much of a deterrent. How many coaches really want to see their offensive set interrupted for this violation?

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I agree to disagree with most of your reply. It is a very good decission to hold your whistle and see the entire play if warranted. But

Use "advantage/disadvantage" by holding your whistle to see the play through. If the offense loses possession or A1 misses the shot, blow your whistle for a violation on B1 but if A1 scores, and then ignore the violation.

No advantages gained by the defender or in case the offensive player leaves the court for an unauthorized reason, use the same method.

Do remember... there is no time limit on a whistle.
[/B][/QUOTE]Wow! No time limit on a whistle? Wait for 4-5-6 seconds on this play to see whether the shot went in or not after the defender went OOB, and if it didn't, you then call the violation? Don't think so!

Use advantage/disadvantage if an offensive player leaves the court for an unauthorized reason too? There's no way in hell that was the purpose and intent when this rule was implemented. The rulesmakers put this rule in to try and stop players from leaving the court for unauthorized reasons. The only judgement we have on this call is whether the player's reason for leaving the floor was legit or not. If we rule it wasn't, we call the violation. We don't wait until later.

Bad, bad, bad advice imo. [/B][/QUOTE]

I disagree with most of your reply. It is a very good decision to hold your whistle and see the entire play if warranted. But Ref PA made a very good suggestion regarding tactics used to gain an advantage by purposely going out of bounce to draw an immediate violation to consider using the unsporting behavior by issuing a technical.

Do you as a senior basketball official call every violation and every foul you see? If A1 breaks away on a fast break and B1 reaches across to make a steal but B1 has made illegal contact, impeding A1's direction, would you call a foul on B1 even though A1 has possession and scores a lay up?

Can you give me a better synopsis and suggestions on when it is appropriate to hold or not to hold your whistle, and when to use advantage/disadvantage techniques? Thanks.

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There is never a time limit on a whistle. You as an official can blow your whistle unlimited seconds after a violation or foul has been committed. It may not be acceptable to the coaches, fans, etc. but as an official you may have a slow reaction to what may have just occurred or you have a correctable error, in which there is limit based on dead ball.
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