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Originally posted by PeteBooth
Originally posted by LilLeaguer
Pete Booth certainly gets this, though I find I'm interested (along with JM) to know if Pete was advocating that umpires lie to avoid the trap that JM sets.
My disagreement with Coach JM is that the INITIAL call of OBS/INTERFERENCE is a Judgement call first and foremost. Once, called then the rules governing those rules take effect.
IMO, it's NO different then if F1 threw a pitch right down Broadway and the PU called it a ball. Rule 9.02a also supports my position.
As far as "lying" goes it's simply a way to get the coach off our backs PERIOD. I agree with Garth in that the less said to a coach the better.
JM was allowed to do what he did because the UMPIRES allowed him to, but if he had veteran officials, the call would not be changed or REVERSED.
As rule 9.02a states, judgement calls which the calling of OBS/Interference are, are NOT protestable and for a very good reason, otherwise the game would result in chaos.
Pete Booth
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We're discussing two situations. The OBS call didn't involve JM, so he wasn't
allowed to do anything; he just says what he'd
try to do. In the leaving early appeal sitch, JM stepped out of the dugout during a dead ball, stood there, and then returned. I'm not a veteran Real Umpire(tm), but I think I would have allowed that.
On an OBS/INT call, I'll answer these questions truthfully, in five words or less:
* What did my fielder/runner do?
* Why wasn't it INT/OBS?
* Why did you make
that award?
Are any of them improper questions for an umpire to answer? And yes, I'm aware that the Rat might be trying to bait me into admitting evidence that I screwed up a ruling. My attitude on that is:
* I'm pretty confident that, in most cases, I get the ruling correct.
* If I didn't, I'd prefer to correct it on the field rather than have a protest committee try to find excuses for me later.
Currently, I try to avoid being overturned in a protest, and I don't lie on the field, even to Rats. I'm not sure that either goal is consistent with becoming a Real Umpire(tm), but
that isn't a goal of mine right now.
-LL