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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
If the defender puts a dribbler in the 3rd. row while making a "token swipe at the ball", then are you trying to tell me that's a "non-intentional foul"?
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Obviously not. But I thought it was also obviously not the type of play we're talking about. We're talking about the foul at the end of the game, the sole purpose of which is to stop the clock.
If the question is whether there can be an intentional foul even while playing the ball, the answer is obviously "yes". But in a play where a kid is running around trying to stop the clock and slaps somebody on the arm, playing the ball is the main consideration in whether it's ruled an intentional or not.
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care to comment on some of his other criteria? How about the one where trying to "hurt/punish" a player is an intentional foul?
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Nah, you covered it.