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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by Jimgolf
You are referring to a strategic foul, not an intentional foul. Even if Coach is yelling, "Foul him! Foul him!", foul must meet criteria for intentional foul to make call.
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Not according to a POE issued by the NFHS in the 2000-2001 rulebook--i.e. POE #5- "Acts that must be deemed intentional include when a coach/player says 'watch,we're going to foul'". Lot of discussion about that one back then.
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I thought the fed made editorial changes this year to clarify that a coach yelling "Foul 'em!" is NOT an automatic intentional, which over rules this (incredibly stupid) POE and introduces into the rules the idea of a strategic foul at the HS level.
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Dan, the post that you are citing was made by me back on December 4, 2004. This is a very old thread brought back to life. Iow, I made that post long before the FEd issued that clarification, and at the time of the post that criteria was still valid. /
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Oh. I hate when that happens.
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As far as I know the rest of the points in that POE are still valid also. That POE Said:
An intentional foul has occurred when a team has obviously committed a foul, late in the game, to stop the clock and force the opponent into a throw-in or free throw situation. Acts that must be deemed intentional include:
- grabbing a player from behind
- wrapping the arms around a player
- grabbing a player away from the ball
- grabbing or shoving a player from behind when an easy basket may be made
- excessive contact on a player attempting a shot
- grabbing/holding a player by the jersey in order to impede their progress
I agree that the part of the POE regarding the coach telling a player to foul was ridiculous.The FED probably clarifed that one again because nobody would make that particular call anyway. The other points from that POE that I listed above are still valid and germane imo, and also still form a good guideline on how/when to call an intentional foul.
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Yes, all other points remain valid, whether at the end of game or not.