[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by ChuckElias
You have an infraction and a penalty. You can correctly indicate the infraction and incorrectly administer the penalty. I just don't see that they must be treated as the same "call".

I will just say again that if I'm the R and we're not supposed to shoot FTs, then we're not shooting FTs period.

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Whatinthe hell difference does it make what verbiage you use? Does it really matter whether you're trying to overrule a screwed-up "infraction" or a screwed up "penalty"? Lah me! I'm saying that you can't overrule either if the calling official doesn't want to be overruled and refuses to be overruled.

In this play, you're telling your partner "I'm overruling your call!". Your partner now tells you "Like F**K you are!". When he's completely adamant out on the floor that his call is right, there's nothing else you can do but tell him that he's hanging himself and then go with him.

Play: Your partner's administering a throw-in. Defender reaches over the OOB line and knocks the ball out of the thrower's hands. Your partner says "delay of game"(proper call) and then tells the scorer to put a team warning in the book. You say "Whoa, that's a T". Partner says "Nope, you're fulla sh*t". You're telling me, Chuck, that your call is gonna end up prevailing- even though it may be completely 110%() right- if your partner(the calling official) absolutely refuses to change his call? How you gonna do that? Karate-chop him unconscious and then change his call?

Chuck, I know exactly what you're trying to say. All I'm trying to say is that you're in a completely unique situation here- one where crew unity has already gone right down the ol' sh*tter. If you happen to run into someone that dumb and hardheaded, you're better to "oh well" it and get the game out of way asap--and deal with it after the game--rather than have a screaming match out on the floor between your partner and yourself.