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Originally posted by Bart Tyson
OK, lets make it complicated. The defender does not have legal guarding position. I can see the dribbler initiating contact and we have a foul on the defender. I'm not refering to your play b/c I think you made it clear there was not a foul. I know you didn't say the following as a blanket statement, However, I don't think we can say anytime a dribbler initiates contact then we don't have a foul.
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No, but I think that all Tom is saying is that in his
particular situation the dribbler initiated the contact
illegally, and he had a no-call on the play when his partner's whistle went--but if Tom had to call a foul, it woulda been on the dribbler. Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but it's a case where the dribbler and defender both established straight-line paths side-by-each, and then the dribbler veered out of his path either into or slightly in front of the defender. In cases like those, LGP basically doesn't mean everything. However, screening principles do apply to the dribbler. The dribbler has to give the defender room to stop- usually a maximum of 2 steps. FED casebook play 10.6.2SitB-COMMENT kinda lays out the principle. It's a HTBT type of play with regards as to whether you're gonna call a foul or not imo.
The other comment by Tom was legitimate too, I thought. He was trail and this play was in his primary. His partner at C reached across the floor to get the call. That one is a "wtf you doing,Willis" in the dressing room later.