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Originally posted by mcrowder
If you disagree with any of this, PLEASE site the rule, and not just opinion.
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OK.
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Originally posted by mcrowder
Perfectly good examples of why it IS the proper mechanic to call time after a play that included OBS, and announce the award, EVEN if the runner achieved or passed the award you were going to give.
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I disagree with the premise that the obstruction
prevented the runner from touching. It delayed the touch and the runner may not have wanted to take the time, but the runner is still required to touch. 8-5-B. Obstruction is a delayed dead ball call. As far as killing the ball to make the award of the base the runner is on (or even more confusing, to make the "award" of a base the runner has advanced beyond) is nowhere to be found, so citing a rule that is nonexistant is a bit difficult. In the obstruction rule, the ball is declared dead if the runner is put out prior to reaching the protected base (8-5-B-2). Otherwise, the rule says twice the ball remains live. (8-5-B-3 and 8-5-B EFFECT.)
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Originally posted by mcrowder
Regarding the aforementioned live-ball appeal... this is a play on the OBS'd runner. Just like if they were tagged out before the base you were protecting them to, you call dead ball at the time of this appeal, and announce the base you are awarding. Runners are allowed ample opportunity to complete their baserunning responsibities when an award is made, and this includes returning to retouch a missed base (whether this missed base was caused by the OBS or not!). Once it's obvious the runner is finished running, THEN a dead-ball appeal can be heard if the runner never retouched.
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No, no, no. 8-5-B, runners are still required to touch all bases. EVEN IF OBSTRUCTED! OR, they can be put out by PROPER APPEAL - a live ball appeal is a proper appeal. Unless the fielder is lying prone across the base and physically preventing the runner from touching any part, the runner must touch the base. 8-5-B.