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Originally posted by ysong
But how many players do the "stepping" instead of jumping when they "run" the layups? except during pre-game warmups.
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I'm pretty sure that when establish a pivot foot while moving (like when taking a lay-up), there's no difference between a jump and a step (4-43-2). Also, it's JMO, but I see more travels during pre-game lay-up lines, than I do on lay-ups during the game.
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I'd like to say too often (if not always) the runing layups are done by jump-jump.
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I'm not sure what kind of games you're working, but that just isn't the case around here. The jump stop is pretty rare around here (I'd guesstimate 5%-10% of all drives to the basketin boys' games), especially compared to regular lay-ups.
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So how do you draw a line here, between an ok jump-jump and a not-ok jump-jump? each ref may have a different creterion.
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That's not the fault of the rule; that's inconsistency in application. An ok jump-stop occurs when a player:
1) catches the ball in the air;
2) lands on one foot;
3) jumps off that foot; and
4) lands simulaneously on both feet ( 4-43-2a(3) ).
Officials tend to be lax in applying the "simultaneously" standard. But that doesn't mean that what the rule states is somehow unclear.
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Without this rule, it may make the game more enjoyable. after catching the ball when runing, the player will be allowed to drastically change his/hers direction and "jump" away from the defender to take shot. Without this rule, the basketball will be more basketball. people legalized the jump shot for the same reason, right?
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I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you're getting at. How will removing a rule allow a player to change direction drastically? What rule is preventing that now? I just don't understand what you're trying to say. Sorry.
And I'm already on record as saying that I dislike the jump-stop. I think it's clearly a travel, since the player leaves the floor with the ball and returns to the floor with the ball. However, I understand that it's legal b/c of the very specific language describing how the pivot is established. Since there's no pivot when the player leaves the floor (after jumping off one foot), it's not a travel when he comes back down (since the pivot hasn't been lifted and returned). Bad rule, IMO, but that's the way it is.