[rainmaker]

Originally posted by ysong

"Listen more, talk less.", "less talking, please", "shut up!", "Lord, please help us! Keep him quiet."

It's still a mystery to me why this sequence just keeps repeating itself. Does this happen to anybody else too, seriously?

Ok, I will listen this time. But please, you people keep talking.

Unless you people want me leave this topic and believe half of the layups I'll see are travels (techniaclly speaking), please give me a firm conclusion that you people agree upon. Especially Mick please, somehow you made me believe B and C were ok with you.

I watched Mavs vs Sun game 3, the second quater. Quit a few layups there.(I know, that is smart, using NBA examples to show my point. But it happened to be handy.)

Anyway, there were at least 4-5 layups that were shown with good angel on TV. In normal speed, I could not tell their first beat were steps or jumps. What I could tell were that these layups were done while players were running.

But in slow motion, among the 4-5 layups, at least 3 of them were jump-jump. (2 by Dirk Nowitzki and 1 by someone else). the rest of layups were unclear from the video. In fairness, their first jumps were just the natural running strides, not those verticals ones like their 2nd jumps.

So if both B and C are technically illegal, what are your recommendations for this? ignore those unless they are way too obvious?

Thanks.

All the answers to all these questions (except the part about something we all agree on) are already in this post. Read back over what people (especially Mick) wrote. Think about it with an open mind (that means feeling free to not use the NBA as an example). Or sit down with a tape of a local game and a local mentor or assignor and go over some plays there. Those are the only answers that really matter, anyway.