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Old Fri May 13, 2005, 02:02pm
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I am wondering why NCAA neglects it too.

Thanks for letting me know I am not alone in this.
This is incorrect.
which one?
NCAA does not neglect the "prescribed limits" of the foot or both feet.

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Also D is incorrect.
I know D is a controversial one to say the least. To some, D may even seem ridiculous. But I will argue that, in essence, there is no difference between D and C.

To claim both C and D are legal, I uses NCAA 4-66-3(a-3):

a. When both feet are off the playing court and the player lands:
3. On one foot, the player may jump off that foot and simultaneously land on both; neither foot can be the pivot foot.

and NCAA-66-5(a):

Art. 5. After coming to a stop when neither foot can be the pivot foot:
a. One or both feet may be lifted, but may not be returned to the playing court, before the ball is released on a pass or try for goal;

So if a player is allowed to land with both feet, he is certainly allowed to land with one foot only, provided that the other foot does not do anything funny.

Also if a player is allowed to jump when both feet on the floor, he is certainly allowed to jump when one foot on the floor, provided that the other foot behaves.

the key here is "to simultaneously land on both feet" only prohibits "to land one foot after the other", does not prohibits "to land on one foot only" at all, as long as the other foot does not land until the ball is gone.

This is what I truely believe, D is just as legal as C. Also I believe it is well within basketball game principle, unlike my other "one jump with the ball after pivoting" scenairo.

(Actually I missed the 5th way of legal lay-ups: the land-step-jump-shoot sequence, which is very similar to C, only the player steps first before the jump and shot.)

Do I miss anything here?

Thanks.



ysong,

C)gets the ball when both feet off the floor, then foot #1 back to floor, foot #1 off the floor, foot #2 back to floor, foot #2 off the floor, ball gone, foot(feet) back to floor. This is the land-jump-jump-shoot sequence, with alternate "footings".


D)gets the ball when both feet off the floor, then foot #1 back to floor, foot #1 off the floor, foot #1 back to floor again(!), foot #1 off the floor, ball gone, foot (feet) back to the floor. this is the land-jump-jump-shoot sequence, with the same footing.

Um, nope.
One red + one green does not equal two red + one green.
mick

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