[gordon30307]

Originally posted by mcrowder
I would not expect you to reverse his call. It's his call. But if he asked you what you saw (regardless of his reasons for doing so), you should tell him. Then he makes the call about whether to reverse it. And he takes the heat, and handles the ejections as well.

Let me change your situation a bit.

You are working with the best umpire you've ever worked with. Always in position. Always hustles, and knows all the rules. This time, HE's your base umpire on the very same play. He makes the call, coach asks him to look for help, and for some reason, he DOES ask for what you saw.

Do you tell him, or do you give him the same "Talk to the hand" that you gave our crappy ump from the original story?

I suspect you would tell him what you saw, and let him decide how to handle.

If so, then it seems to me you are letting your contempt for this sub-par umpire affect the game in a negative manner. Don't get me wrong --- this crappy umpire needs to undergo some serious retraining, and your assignor needs to be made aware of his issues.

But don't let his crappiness penalize the kids in a sitch where you can make it right.

Hi MC,

As BU I've never ever went to PU for help on plays at second or third I've had Coaches ask me but, my answer to them is Coach this is my play all the way. I also would not want to "pass the buck". As PU I've never ever had my partner come to me for help on plays at second or third. Quite frankly if I had a partner (assuming I'm PU) that did this I'm not certain what I would do. In terms of penalzing the kids IMHO I don't feel that this is the case. Good calls and bad calls are part of the game the same as good plays, clutch hits, mental mistakes and butchered plays.