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Old Wed Apr 20, 2005, 09:16am
kdf5 kdf5 is offline
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Let's look at the original play:

After team A (except QB) is fully set, QB A1 motions for all the backfield players (A82, A23, and A43) to come to him (like he is calling an audible or changing all their pass routes or something). After they are all around him and standing still (two beside the QB and one behind him), and QB is facing AWAY from the center, the center snaps the ball to one of the backs standing NEXT to the QB. The back with ball then throws a pass to wide open split end A81 who runs in for a touchdown.

Per KWH:

Was their an illegal formation? No
Was their an illegal shift? No
Was their a substitition infraction? No

So, if you agree with KWH, you've got what? Two backs next to the QB, one behind him and the QB looking backwards. He's not penetrating the center's waist so there's no requirement for hands under center if the ball is snapped from between the center's legs. There's certainly no requirement that he be looking at the center at the snap. The only thing different between this play and your garden variety everyday play that I can envision is that the QB is facing away from the center.

You'd never flag a snap to a back (standing next to the QB) receiving the snap would you? Finally, look at mikesears' twist making this a play where A is truly confused. Would you really flag this for UC per 9-9-3 if A was just confused? How many times have you seen a QB facing a wideout, yelling an audible, not expecting a snap, when the center snaps the ball? Have you ever seen that flagged for UC? After all, if the QB is looking and yelling at his wideout you could say that a snap isn't imminent, right? What is it here that makes a travesty(rendering this "ludicrous or ridiculous") of the game per 9-9-3?

Mike, this is your play, what's your ruling?
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