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Originally posted by ozzy6900
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Originally posted by Tim C
Please you don't have "to see it" . . . the posts and the rules references that make it a balk are quite clear.
What am I missing here . . . I need something to make me see your side.
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Tim
Simple physics. Try it yourself - you have to pause in order to start your pitching motion.
The reason I am challenging is that my son (HS pitcher & Board Umpire) does exactly this every time and never gets called. Now I am not arguing the rule (hard to when there is nothing written in the FED rule book about the pause we are talking about) rather I am arguing the application of the rule. Bear with me here.
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FED 6-1-2 For the wind-up position, the pitcher is not restricted as to how he shall hold the ball. A pitcher assumes the windup position when his hands are:
(a) together in front of the body;
(b) both hands are at his side;
(c) either hand is in front of the body and the other is at his side.
The pitcher's non-pivot foot shall be in any position on or behind a line extending through the front edge of the pitcher's plate. He is limited to not more than two pumps or rotations. After he starts his movement to pitch, he must continue the motion without interruption or alteration. With his feet in the wind-up position, the pitcher may only deliver a pitch or step backward off the pitcherÂ’s plate with his pivot foot first. After the pitcher has places his pivot foot clearly behind the plate, he has the right to change to the set position or throw or feint to a base the same as that of any fielder. During delivery, he may lift his non-pivot foot in a step forward, a step sideways, or in a step backward and a step forward, but he shall not otherwise lift either foot.
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Now there is the FED wind-up rule. Please tell me how bringing your hands together, is the start of the delivery! I contend that once the hands are together, you have no choice but to deliver or step off. The delivery movement is the next movement after the hands are together. Again, I refer you to simple physics; you have to come to a pause once the hands are together.
I'll go one step further on this. If you try to bring your hands together and go right into your pitching motion (remember, no pause of any kind) you will balk! PLEASE - try it before you respond (not just Tim I mean everyone)!
Now we are going to have fun!  :
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A few years ago there was a change to what is now the FED windup rule(s).
At that time, the Rules slides [which we are all required to view] made quite a point of what was and was not now legal.
Short answer:
IF you take the rubber w/ hands @ side, AND IF you move both hands AT THE SAME TIME, bringing them together in front of the body; THEN you must continue to pitch in an uninterrupted motion.
IF [on the other hand] you take the rubber w/ hands @ side, AND IF you then move your hands, ONE AFTER THE OTHER, bringing them together in front of the body, THEN and in that case, you are NOT required to continue, and may in fact pause before pitching.
WHY is this so? I dunno, except that time of pitch is defined for windup as a simultaneous movement of any two limbs, when engaged with the rubber.