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Originally posted by tcannizzo
... but the post that began with, "That's a lot of hooey." set the stage and the play unfolded from there.
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You chose to take this personally. I can't be responsible for that. Maybe you would prefer "wrong" or "silly" or "inane" (as I called it later), or "nonsense" or "balderdash" or "drivel" or "claptrap" or "bull" or "poppycock" ...
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Originally posted by tcannizzo
... If you go back and re-read my original posts, you will see that I made a statement and then asked a question.
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Fortunately, that is easy to do. Hmmm, no, I don't see any questions there. I see
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There are a couple of things I don't like about ASA 8-5-B-4:
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I see
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it says something that makes it arguably unenforceable:
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by which you meant the inclusion of the two words "or thrown" in the rule. Last time I checked, "or" means "introducing the second of two possibilities." You seem to have "or" confused with "and." Then I see
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2. It is the only rule that refers to awarding a base that does not also include the phrase "is put out".
There are three occurances of the phrase "awarding a base" is preceded by the condition that the runner "is put out". Specifically, 8-5-B-2 and POE 36. Rule 8-5-B-4 is the only occurance that does not.
Certainly there are multiple occurances of the phrase "would have reached" in 8-5-B-1-Exceptions-1-a, and 8-5-B-3 but none of them include an awardof bases.
POE 36: "If the obstructed runner is put out prior to reaching the base he would have reached had there not been obstruction, a dead ball will be called and obstructed runner, and each other runner affected by the obstruction, will be awarded the base(s) the runner would have reached."
There are other subsequent occurances of the phrase "would have reached" in POE 36, but these refer back to the preceding paragraph.
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As if the rule book operated by the "preponderance of evidence" principle. And then you end with
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Clearly, (at leaset to me), the runner must make the attempt and be put out in order to be awarded a base.
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If there was a question in there somewhere, I sure missed it.
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Originally posted by tcannizzo
... You gotta admit, the pig was more offensive than Durwood.
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You still fail to understand the difference between an analogy and an insult. You've been reading too many law books. Try some actual literature.