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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by blindzebra
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Actually I'm the one that went round and round with you on this issue.
The intent of an interrupted dribble is to not penalize for an ACCIDENTAL loss of control. To me if the ball is not AWAY from the dribbler BEFORE they step OOB it's a violation. It's also a violation when they step OOB and not when they touch it again.
Keep in mind that EVERY dribble is away from the dribbler, so by rule, are we to judge that A1 is not in control when the ball is not touching their hand?  [/B]
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You--and Camron and a few others disagreed with me too, if I remember right.
"Accidental" loss of control has nuthin' to do with nuthin'. The definition of an interrupted dribble says that "it momentarily gets away from the dribbler". It also says that there is no player control during that time either. Letting the ball bounce after walking away from it meets that criteria in R4-15-6d. There is no prequisite in the definition of an interrupted dribble that covers "accidental" actions, deliberate actions, or any kind of actions. If it momentarily gets away from the dribbler, then it's an interrupted dribble. Period.
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I'm not repeating the debate.
IMO the spirit and intent of the rule implies accidental loss of control, but that is not even an issue. If you dribble and the ball is on the way to the floor and you step OOB you violated when you touched OOB. There is not one word in the rule book that requires that the ball be touched again by the dribbler for it to be a violation.
By rule you have violated before you intentionally interrupted your dribble. As I've stated before the dribble needs to be interrupted BEFORE they step OOB, not as a bail-out after they step out.