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				Originally posted by rainmaker  
Seriously, I guess what I wrote was a little harsh.  But the arrogance is hard for me to swallow, and I don't understand people who think it's cool.  Why is being ignorant, conceited and show-off-y something to be proud of? 
			
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 Juulie, I think you're starting to lose perspective here, and are now attributing qualities to the man that are not supported by facts.  While I find their commentary occasionally infuriating, I do not find Nance or Packer to come off as arrogant, conceited, or show-off-y (is that a word? 

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You're taking this dislike to a whole new level - one that is, judging by what I've been able to glean from this board, beneath you.
Just my $0.02