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Originally posted by 112448
It's maybe only "silly" to you because you haven't spent your entire life fighting an uphill battle (especially in the field of officiating) just becuase of the way you look. sometimes it's better to think about what it's really like to be someone else; to try to understand something about that person before you make statements like the one above.
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This is exactly what I am talking about. I am not saying to be insensitive as a speaker/writer, I am saying don't be so quickly offended--probably none was intended--and if it was, the speaker/writer will generally make it clear as things go on. I try to empathize with others, but do we all need to walk on eggshells to do it?
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Originally posted by Rainmaker
I don't think it's a matter of looking to be offended, at least not for me. But it's hard not to be when I go to use the restroom in a highschool here and the two doors are labeled "Men" and "Girls". What in the world am I supposed to think?' All the males are adults, and all the females aren't? If I regard myself as a mature adult, and I do, where do I go to the bathroom? Is there another set of bathrooms somewhere in this school where the doors are labeled "Women" and "Boys"? 90% of men that I talk to about this, don't think it's any big deal, but 90% of women do. SO who's right?
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Juulie--I honestly believe that men have done great injustices to women throughout the years and they were wrong to do it. (Your restroom example is right on the money.) Should we be offended at this, probably, but we should definitely try to change it. Should we be offended when a referee calls players "guys"? I don't think it is a big deal because the referee is only using a generic term to refer to the players ("players" is a better term) and is not trying to offend anyone. As for respect, I don't know how to help you with that one other than to say that your refereeing will speak loudest. If you demand their respect and can back it up, you will get it.
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I'm not a big feminist wymyn-only type of gal, and I understand that most men are not misogynists. So that's why I wrote up that little agreement at the top of the discussion -- I'll agree to be less touchy, if you'll be more sensitive. Get it?
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Ok, by me.