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Originally posted by ysong
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Originally posted by BktBallRef
That just simply means that the force of the spin caused the ball to come to rest in the player's hand. It's still palming.
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Then my confusion is what exactly "come to rest in his hand" means?
if it means no relative movement between the hand and the ball, then even a perfect downward dribble can be considered "no relative movement" if the dribbler keeps his hand on the top of the ball when pushing it.
on the other hand, if that phrase means "stop moving at a surface facing upward", then as long as dribbler's hand remains downward, there is no palming. one can argue that in that spin move the dribbler keeps his hand on the top of the ball (in the same time, on the side of the ball also), so the ball can not "come to rest" in his hand because the lack of vertical support.
Any insights to clarify my confusion? Thanks
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You're overanalyzing this situaton, partner. Maybe this will help.
From the 2000-01 NFHS Points of Emphasis
Offensive players "palming" the ball continue to gain a tremendous advantage over defensive player(s). Emphasis is not only to be given to the dribbler's hand position, but also the activity of the ball while the dribble is occurring. "Palming" not only occurs while the palm is facing "skyward," but can also occur while the palm is facing the floor. The key to officiating this play consistently and correctly is to determine if the ball has "come to rest" (4-15-4 b). Where we are seeing a definite advantage to the offensive player is on the hesitation "move" to beat a defender (toward the basket or just to go by them). In many of these instances, the ball is "coming to rest" in the dribbler's hand. A violation must be called by the official, as there is no way to legally defend against this move.