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Old Thu Mar 17, 2005, 01:51pm
wadeintothem wadeintothem is offline
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One area administers the test. After the test is administered, as a convenience to their local association, they post the answers so everyone (who has already taken the test) can look up what they missed. Is that unethical? Not in and of itself, but it does place the temptation out there for those who are ethically challenged.
Those who are ethically challenged AND required to complete their tests in a certain way that does not include simply finding the answers.

For those who are not required to even take the test, or those whose tests are not graded or those who the UIC simply give them the answers at the next clinic - its not a problem at all.

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Another area passes out the tests with instructions for their umpires to take them home and answer the questions using their rule book and case book. One of those umpires tries to find the answers on the internet instead of looking them up.

Is ASA National going to get involved? No.

Is that umpire unethical? Yes.
For that local umpire, that is a problem.

Is it devestating?

No.

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Legality and the existance of an enforcement mechanism is a very, very poor tool to use in defining your own ethics, unless you just don't want to have any at all.
Then again, inventing your own criteria and applying it to everyone else who may not be subject to that criter is equally a poor way of doing things. You are passing judgement based on your own areas way of doing things.

Which is fine, it is your opinion - I dont see how you can justify that it is defacto correct.

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I seriously doubt that any area will pass out the tests along with the web site URL for looking up the answers with instructions to copy them down and turn the test back in. Yet, you seem to be arguing that this should be considered ethical behavior. At the very least, it would be a colossal waste of time.
They may not, but they certainly could. Some orgs pass them out and dont require them to be turned in.. fed we didnt turn them in - the UIC read through the answers. Some dont grade them and return them.

There is a bigger picture here than your narrow slice of local rules - that being it is done differently in so many areas that applying your own invented local rules, that you could change tomorrow, to every single org in the nation is rather arrogant IMO.
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