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Old Wed Mar 16, 2005, 01:26pm
Bart Tyson Bart Tyson is offline
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This is a email conversation between an AD and myself. I Sub "AD" for his name. I have officiated with him years ago. He is now a college AD.

"AD wrote: Hi there. Hope you are doing well. I want your opinion on this. I got this info from the Sports Illustrated website. Northern Iowa's AD Rick Hartzell's is also a big-time NCAA men's basketball official. "He refereed several games involving other NCAA bubble teams, including the Conference USA final between Memphis and Louisville. Memphis lost, clearing space for a bubble team, and Northern Iowa appears to be one of the final two teams in the field of 65. But don't blame Hartzell. He's the referee who whistled the foul on Francisco Garcia that sent Darius Washington to the foul line in the final second. "UNI plays Wisconsin in the first round and it was Hartzell's assignment for Wisconsin's last-second win against Indiana on March 1 that drew national attention." First off, how does an AD have time to do his job and travel around the country as an official? Secondly, how does the NCAA allow this apparent conflict of interest?

Hi AD, good to hear from you. As to your first question, its not any ones business how he can get away from work. As to you second question, I don't buy your premise that itÂ’s a conflict of interest. He is a great official. You don't become great and work great games by trying to make calls one way or the other. If an official did try this, they would have a bad game. And I don't believe any official will want to have a bad game. This was on the discussion board. See the following site...http://www.officialforum.com/thread/18955
Thanks,
Bart

"AD wrote: As a former official, I don't think he would call a one-sided game. I just think it's strange for supervisors to put him in the situation. If I was the CEO of Boeing, my shareholders would object to me working a second job at Airbus.


Hi AD, Rick Hartzell worked many years to become a D-1 official. He didn't become an official after he was an AD. He officiates different conferences then what he works as an AD. Your analogy between Boeing and Airbus is flawed for several reasons. 1) the conferences are not competing, the two teams on the court are playing the game. 2) A CEO has time to think, analyze, confer with others, chart, graph, etc. 3) the official has to make split second decisions based on the actions on the court at the moment. 3) CEO's sign no-competing contracts, not only for the time they are employed but for years after they leave the company. 4) officials have no such contracts to prevent them from working other conferences. This is not anything new. Officials and supervisors make many decisions based on conflict of interest for all sorts of reasons. I agree the line has to be drawn somewhere. The question is where. Some people would say if I live in Kansas, then I can't officiate in Missouri or officiate any team from any other state. So you are in charge, you tell me and all these great officials, who gets to ref and who has to give it up? This issue has come up in the past and it will in the future. This in a discussion only because of an over jealous play by play analysis on TV had a wrong analysis of several plays in a game. The replay and the analysis of others who know about officiating, of the plays in question proved the commentator on TV didn't have a clue. The other conferences and the other teams in question didn't have a problem with Rick working these games. This question of conflict of interest needs to be up to the supervisor and not the media. The media almost always is bias against officials because they don't have a clue about officiating. When you ask us for our opinion, I could tell you have already concluded your opinion. So, I question your reasoning for asking us. The way you worded your question was bias.
Thank you,
Bart

--- "AD" wrote: Wow, what a response. I sent this out for discussion purposes to about 70 people--senior athletic administrators, MVC officials, media members, referees and fans. I have worked in a Division I athletic department and saw what kind of effort and commitment it takes to build and run an athletic department. I have also been an official. I always aspired to be a Division I AD and Division I official. My dream was to be a guy like Rick Hartzell, but I knew I would one day have to choose because it's a perceived conflict by the fans. I didn't think it would be right to do both. I don't know Rick, didn't see any of the games in question and would never question his integrity. I just saw these comments online and wondered what others thought. The people who need to answer to this are the president at UNI and the conference officiating assigners. Even though we obviously have differing views on this subject, I hope you can respect my opinion like I respect yours. What are you doing these days? Where do you work and are you still officiating?


AD, of course I respect your opinion. In fact I am glad you took the time to ask officials. Your question would have been better served had you asked it in a non bias way. Read your question and ask yourself if you could have worded the question differently so as to get real opinions about the subject. "First off, how does an AD have time to do his job and travel around the country as an official?" This question is asking others to agree with you by painting a negative image, so as to set up the next question, which is also worded incorrectly to obtain a honest opinion. This first question has absolutely nothing to do with his officiating or conflict of interest. "Secondly, how does the NCAA allow this apparent conflict of interest?" This is not asking for input about conflict of interest. This is for out rage after the conviction. The question has already decided
the conflict of interest. Based on how you feel, you will be surprised at all the officials you will have to eliminate from your schedule. I've been working at (employer) for over 10 years and I officiate HS, KCAC, KJCCC, MIAA. I officiate with past and present teachers, AD's, school administrators, etc. Many of the officials are D-1 officials. They do a great job. So, I do have first hand knowledge of this issue. Again, please understand, I do like you and respect you and all AD's. You have a tough job and you should be aware of the issue. Its great hearing from you. This was very interesting.
Thanks,
Bart

[Edited by Bart Tyson on Mar 16th, 2005 at 01:51 PM]
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