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Originally posted by cbfoulds
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Originally posted by bob jenkins
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Originally posted by cbfoulds
OK, R didn't "run away", but I see nothing in 8-4-2b which, absent a slide, requires him to do anything other than avoiding "illegal contact" or "illegally alter(ing)" the fielder's actions. We know there was no contact at all in this [Sitch 3] play. Thus my question: what makes coming in upright, with no contact, "illegal", so as to invoke the penal strictures of the FPSR?
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While there was no contact, F4 / F6 (whoever it was) was required to make "a great play avoiding physical contact". As I read the play, I'm envisioning that the runner is who caused this action, so I have the FPSR violation and the DP.
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I'll start off with admiting that you [and gordon] are probably, almost certainly right: FPSR violation is how they want us to call this in FED [if being pegged by the ball can be a FPSR violation, this certainly can be]. So I'll start adjusting my thinking, in order to call this correctly if it happens in one of my games. I can see it being a hard sell to coaches.
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I agree with you cb and that is why in my early reply to Garth I included the reference.
BRD2005 pg 205,
"Note 342-320: The Rumble ruling is consistent and illuminating, therefore helpful. But it is not definitive, for it leaves an important question unanswered: How close does the runner have to be to the "forced" base before the umpire rules interference?"
What is the magic number
Good diiscussion material.