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Originally posted by bob jenkins
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Originally posted by cbfoulds
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I know of no rule that R violated here ["a runner is never required to slide ...": sound familiar?]; there was no de facto "interference", as BR was put out; and, oh, yeah - by rule ["de jure"] interference with a throw/ thrown ball must be INTENTIONAL [or at least a FPSR violation].
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This was a FPSR violation -- the runner did not slide in a direct line between the bases, nor did he run or slide in a direction away from the play. Had F4/F6 moved away from the base after making the putout and R1 continued to run to the base, I'd interpret that as running in a direction away from the play.
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Bob: I guess I don't see the "illegally alters the actions of a fielder ..." part.
If we accept that R is
never required to slide [& didn't slide, here];
and that [in this play] there was no contact;
and that R did nothing to "interfere" except continue into the bag standing upright;
and that the F was sucessful in retiring the BR:
I have a hard time buying the FPSR violation.
What makes going into the base upright "illegal", so as to "illegally alter..." the fielder's action, always presuming no contact, arm waving, or other obviously illegal behavior on R's part? I've checked all the current cases in the 8.4.2 range: the relevent [semi-relevent] ones all relate to an actual illegal slide or contact being made. What am I missing?