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Originally posted by Dan_ref
BITS, I'm having a hard time agreeing with your post.
A defensive player is allowed to move to maintain guarding position. He's allowed to lean back, position himself and cover up to absorb contact. There's a heck of a lot he can do legally. If the dribbler makes illegal contact with a defender who's leaning back (what you're calling a flop) I cannot see any call other but a PC foul.
Again, what you're calling a "flop" in this case is perfectly legal. And you should not penalize the defender for doing what he's entitled to do.
OTOH if the defender leans back & hits the floor with no or minimal contact then we have a flop. How we deal with that is another discussion but I have never T'ed a player for flopping.
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I'm not calling a leaning defender a flop. Or even a legally retreating defender. Those, of course, are legal. It's when he falls back or down partially or entirely under his own power to make it look like contact occurred, that's what I'm labeling as a flop.
There is the obvious case of the defender hitting the deck without any contact. There are more subtle cases where there is some contact but the defender flies backward, acting as if the contact was more severe that it was, trying to get the call.
I'm definitely not arguing that we tag a defender who is playing legal defense. But if he's acting or acentuating the contact, in other words deliberatly trying to trick or coerce you into giving him the call, that I have a problem with.
I may be out in left field on this, but I have a problem with a flop even if the defender is playing legal defense in every other regard. Just an example, a defender has LGP, he's moving backward while guarding (and still legal), but at the point of contact he intentionally flops--whether he goes to the floor or just flies back a step or two--to make the contact appear more severe than it actually was. If I can tell he's flopping, I do not want to give him the call on that.