Wed Mar 09, 2005, 02:44pm
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Originally posted by Warrenkicker
Quote:
Originally posted by KWH
Score tied 7-7, 0:01 remaining in the 3rd quarter, clock is stopped, 3rd and goal on the B-5 yard line.
Quarterback A1 throws forward pass that is intercepted 5 yards deep in the endzone by B1.
B1 returns the ball 105 yards and crosses A's goal line.
During B1's return, substitute B12 runs onto the field (at the 50 yard line) while wearing an "Amber eye sheild" and runs directly to the Umpire and shouts in the Umpires face, "You dumb f**k, you can't take this one away from us can you!"
The Umpire "guestimates" that B1 was on approximatly the A-25 yard line when B12 entered the field.
While the officials are discussing the penalties and enforcment A1 approaches the officials huddle and polietly informs the officials that, he knows B12, his real name is Gainesta38, and he is the same player that the officials disqaulified in the first half for fighting, however he has apparently changed his jersey number from 38 to 12. (The allegation made by A1 regarding B12/B38 is proven to be true.)
What penalties have occured and how are they enforced under 2005 NFHS rules?
[Edited by KWH on Mar 2nd, 2005 at 12:39 PM]
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Well I will be the one to say it and maybe mix things up again.
Does B12/B38 entering the field during the play to yell at U equate to him participating? By the description of the play the U was about 25 yards behind the play. When B12/B38 entered to vent his frustrations at U I think you can argue that he did not make any contact with an opponent or touch the ball and does not influence the play. (I am using a comment from the Case Book above 9.6.1 for Illegal Participation Comment 7. The rest of you are using Comment 8 as the basis of your ruling.) This then is a live-ball, non-player foul and the penalty is assessed at the succeeding spot. Using this ruling there are not two live-ball fouls because B12/B38 did not reenter the game. Thus all of the penalties would be enforced on the try, all 50 yards of them as I see it, and the period would be over.
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You have a point, but technically, when he communicates with an official, he becomes a player (2-30-15). Now it does not say how he communicates just that he does, so when he cusses at the official he is communicating, so the disqualified player has reentered the game.
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