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Originally posted by WestMichBlue
BTW I like Kevin Ryan. I think by the end of the day we had a lot of respect for each other, but we disagreed on many issues. In addition to the ones already mentioned on the other post, here is a couple more.
What is your opinion?
1. Going to partner for help. Before or after your call? Lets say you are in C and have a close play at 1B. Ball beats the runner, but you are not sure if F3 pulled her foot. You point to partner and say, pull? He says Yes and you sell a safe call. He says No and you put the hammer down. I have done this before in a game and it really looks sharp and you get no objections from coaches or players. And it is supported by the Umpires Manual.
But Kevin says NO! Make the OUT call first and then go to partner for help. Obviously you may then have to change your call. That does not look like a good mechanic to me. What do you say?
2. Checked Swing with 2 strikes (FP). Oh & two count; batter checks swing on a drop ball that gets by the catcher. The pitch is outside the strike zone; you are convinced that she held up and you sell a big BALL call. Coach asks you to appeal to partner. I prefer not to appeal, telling the coach that I have the call. If I do go to partner, he better echo my call.
Kevin says NO partner is to call it as he sees it. I respond that we have trapped the runner at the plate on what is now an uncaught 3rd strike and she is an easy out. Kevin: She should have been running; she knew that she swung. WMB: It was my Ball call that put her in jeopardy; I cannot now call her out. Kevin: Doesnt matter, she should have been running. What do you say?
WMB
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Agree with both.
Anytime a BU doesn't make a call at any base, they no longer own the call and must give it up to partner. If your partner isn't looking, you're boned. And that is more likely to happen if you are in the C because that means the PU has runner responsibilities. That call at 3rd or home has a higher priority that one at 1B.
If you thought the pitch was a ball, that's what you call? Even if you don't call a ball and go to your partner immediately, the batter is still standing at the plate. If a batter doesn't run, one team or the other is always going to have a claim that the umpire's call or lack of one cause their team to not make a play.