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Old Wed Mar 02, 2005, 12:42am
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Looks like NFHS umps and coaches are going to struggle for a while. Should not be a problem for ASA types – or should it?

Down a ways in a post titled “Train Wreck Gone?” I asked ASA folks, now with a year of experience under their belts if they still called Wreck when an errant throw drew the defender into the path of a runner. Several, including Mike were adamant that obstruction was the call.

Irish: ”Speaking ASA. Nope, cannot happen. If the defender does not have POSSESSION of the ball, it is obstruction. The ball getting there first or at the same time is not irrelevant to the ruling”

And: ”Nope. Since when is it the runner's responsibility to avoid a defender moving into THEIR path to catch an errant throw?”

OK – But! Tonight I am looking at my brand shinny new,ink is not dry yet, 2005 version of ASA rules and find the following:

"If the ball, runner and the defensive player all arrive at the same time and contact is made, the umpire should not invoke the collision rule (interference) or obstruction. This is merely Incidental contact."

ASA POE 14, pg 139

Or from the Umpire’s Manual pg 231: "Simply because there is contact between the defensive and offensive player does not mean that obstruction or interference has occurred. This is definitely NOT the case."

"Another example is the errant throw up the line at first base. The B-R collides with the first baseman while attempting to make a play on the errant throw. The runner certainly has a right to the base line in this case and equally so, the first baseman should have the right to field an errant thrown ball. It is the result of the "normal" flow of the game, the play should be ruled incidental contact with no effect or penalty."



So the NFHS has a Casebook situation that disagrees with the official interpretation; ASA has a POE and Umpire Manual that disagrees with the official interpretation.

Who is right? And Why?

WMB
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