[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally posted by ronny mulkey
MTD,

4-24-8 applies to YOUR situation, but it does not address MY situation. This whole thread started because I disagree with a general statement that states you can't have a technical if contact occurs during a live ball. Also, I disagree that any act involving an elbow HAS to fall under 4-24-8. Rule 4-19-13 allows me this flexibility and DOES address my situations more appropriately.

1. The finger poke is an example where contact occurs during a live ball where I would invoke unsporting technical and you would invoke intentional personal. Or, maybe you would call taunting. If you call either tech, then you are ignoring the contact and penalizing the act. If you call an intentional here, you have set a precedence for the rest of the game. All future finger pokes are intentionals.

2. A Billy Bad $ss intimidating elbow that does not involve contact and it wasn't meant to involve contact, you would invoke violation and I would invoke an unsporting tech for intimidation. An intimidating act treated like walking, 3 seconds, palming, etc? Furthermore, what if the other team had the ball?

3. A player (not both players) pushing another player out of frustration during a live ball is another example of contact during a live ball where you would invoke an intentional and I would invoke an unsporting T. Again, I am ignoring the contact and penalizing the action.

On a true-false written test, I guess I just will miss the question if stated that you CAN'T have a tech during live ball situation if contact occurs. During the game, I am not going to miss the opportunity to penalize an intimidating act when I see one. I don't see this as looking for trouble. Who would this trouble?

If my stance on this aggravates you, so be it. But, I didn't appreciate you calling me inexperienced or accusing me of an official looking for trouble because I don't agree with you on this. I am not like a lot of people on the board, I do respect your opinion. I heard what you had to say.

thanks

Mulk

Ronny:

You are wrong by rule on all three points. All officials have to be on the same page. You do not want to officate by the rules; you want to officate the way you want to officiate. If that is the way you want to officiate, then I sugguest, quite admantly, that you stop officating basketball because you are doing the game a disservice.

MTD, Sr.