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Old Fri Feb 18, 2005, 02:12pm
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Re: Re: Re: no way

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Not running an offense makes you stay sharp and ready for the unexpected.

Yes I think running and offense is important to the development of an official. One of our jobs is to watch off-ball coverage and you do not get that with guys just standing around. Sometimes they do run an offense, but it is what I call the 5 star offense. 4 guys stand around the 3 point line, while one guy calls himself posting up in the middle. Usually no one moves, screens or cuts. Now is that the case all the time and everywhere, of course not. But if I work a JH game, I am going to see an honest attempt at running some kind of basic offense and defensive sets.

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You have 10 coaches on the floor acting as bad as the worst coach you will ever run into in a high school game.
How do you learn from that? Coaches are not on the floor. Those are players. I would not want players talking to me like that at any JH, HS or college level. Why would I want a player in any situation to talk to me or question everything I do? There job is to play.

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Originally posted by blindzebra
There are table personnel in men's league and they screw up all the time, 2-3 and 2-10 ring a bell?

You have a point about mechanics, but that does not keep you from doing things by the book.
How are you going to have correctable errors when many leagues do not even use the same scorekeeping rules? I know of leagues that do not even keep the same foul count rules as "real basketball" levels do. Of course some do, but it is a mixed bag.

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Originally posted by blindzebra
Partner not working HS or college, you learn what NOT TO DO.
If you are a young official, you do not know what to do. That takes time and experience to know what to do most of the time. Not sure I agree with that. Then when you are younger you are not going to challenge those that are running the league or working with you because you do not know any better.

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You need to work if you don't have experience and rec leagues will give you countless opportunities to apply the rules you rarely see in high school games.
Then work JH games. Work JV games. Work sophomore games. I worked 7 days a week and had to turn down games. I was in college and could do that when I started officiating. But I worked every game I could get my hands on that was not a Men's league.

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If you can handle rec leagues you can deal with ANY coach or player in a high school game.
That is crap (at least here it is). I can say many things that will get my point across without having to raise my voice. In a men's league if the league does not back the officials (which many times they do not) or the player has enough money they can say pretty much what they like. Of course you can throw them out of the game, that does not mean all the procedures are in place to protect the officials or make sure that action will be taken. I do not have those problems at the other levels.

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Remember some officials out there are not in a position to say a level of basketball is beneath them.
Well if you cannot choose what level you want to work or what league you want to work, then that is a sad commentary for officiating. Maybe that is the reason there are not that many officials across the country. But in this area Men's leagues are not apart of our associations. Of course there are members that assign those leagues, but it has nothing to do with the development of officials for HS and college. Men's leagues and even most JH leagues are optional for officials to work. They do not help you get evaluated for HS games and they do not hurt you. They are just there to make money.

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