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Originally posted by Camron Rust
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Originally posted by Smitty
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Originally posted by Camron Rust
Grabbing a shirt is most definitely NOT an flagrant. I'd even have a hard time calling it an intentional unless it is on a play like a breakaway where the offended looses a completely unobstructed layup. Coming off of a screen, I'd think a standard hodling foul would be best. Why have the holding foul at all if grabbing someone is an intentional.
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What's the difference between grabbing someone's shirt to keep them from moving and wrapping your arms around someone's body? I'm talking about a blatant grabbing, not just an accidental grab of the shirt and quickly letting go.
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Most rebounds would involve an intentional foul then. A1 boxing out, wraps arms back around opponent to keep him from moving to the ball...that's a common foul.
Grabbing the shirt should be no different than grabbing the arm or putting the arm across the opponents body to delay/hold him.
It becomes intentional depending on context. Did the held player have an unobstructed line to a near-certain bucket? Or was the level of contact excessive?
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I guess we just look at this differently. I liken grabbing the shirt to be the same as grabbing someone's body. More like grabbing ahold of someone's wrist and not letting them go. The typical behavior of players doesn't fall into this category in my view of it. But purposely grabbing and holding any part of a person, to me, is crossing the line into intentional territory.