
Wed Feb 02, 2005, 05:10pm
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Re: Re: Re: Re: The dribbler does not have to touch it first to be an illegal dribble
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Originally posted by Back In The Saddle
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Originally posted by rwest
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Originally posted by Bart Tyson
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Originally posted by rwest
Once the player has ended their dribble, if he/she starts another dribble its a violation. The dribbler does not have to touch the ball before the violation occurs. The violation occurs when he/she initiates the dribble. A bounce pass can not be confused for a dribble. For example, A1 dribbles up the court and ends their dribble. They then initiate another dribble but before the ball bounces back to their hand the ball is touched by the defender. I have an illegal dribble even though the dribbler was not the first to touch it after it hit the floor. The illegal dribble is called at the start of the dribble.
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Sorry, but I have to disagree. You start a dribble by releasing the ball to the floor. However, the drible is not completed until she is the 1st to touch the ball after the release. If she does not touch the ball then its not a dribble.
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Where in the rule book does it say this? I don't have mine with me, but I do not recall the definition of a dribble including the dribbler being the first to touch the ball. The dribble starts when the ball is forced to the ground. That's when the illegal dribble starts and when it should be called.
By your definition if I end my dribble and then start a new one, it would not be a violation if the defense touched the ball after it hit the floor but before I touched it.
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I had an odd play last year where the dribbler pulled up, jumped, realized he had no shot and nobody to pass to and simply dropped the ball to the floor. He didn't begin a dribble, he didn't pass, he simply abandoned the ball. No violation.
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This is a violation. I believe there is even a case book play for this. I'll have to check when I get home. However, if I understand the situation you indicated above, the player was airbourne (i.e. both feet off the floor). He then dropped the ball to the floor. This is considered the start of a dribble. The player can not do this to protect himself. He started a dribble with the pivot foot off the floor. Classic travel.
Anyone else agree?
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