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Originally posted by LarryS
I'm surprised it took you so long to criticize the comment. I fully expected it to come from you first.
I glad for you that you are now only rated on varsity games. However, I was waiting for a JH rec game to start this last weekend (I was working it with my son, a new official) and there was a league official there watching a kid, in his first year, officiate a 6th grade game (my guess is the official was 19-20). The guy needs to find officials that are good enough to call 8th grade so he can more those officials to cover his HS ages. But you probably don't consider that a meaningful evaluation because is wasn't at a varsity game.
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Larry it is clear that you do not understand what I am saying to you. I am not talking about evaluation and helping officials. You can help any officials at all levels, even the varsity and college level. I know any game I work I ask for advice if I am working with a more experienced official and try to discuss philosophy. Your post was that someone is going to have a more intense game at the 8th grade level than a varsity game. Maybe our definition of intensity is just different, but having a bunch of fans screaming and yelling does not equal intensity in my mind. Intensity in my way of thinking has to do with who is watching, who is playing, what are the consequences of the actions of the players, coaches and officials.
I am the Vice-President of one of my associations. I am a member of 4 basketball organizations. I have never heard anyone seriously ask the top brass in any of those associations how they can get the 8th grade championship. That tells me that when people talk about games, they are not talking about. I work many middle school football games; no one talks about those games or asks me about the games or even care that I do them. I get a lot of questions about my regular season games and there is a lot of talk about who works the playoffs and why they got those games. I am sorry that is arrogant to state the obvious truth.
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Originally posted by LarryS
You normally have good information in your post and appear to be one of the officials many could learn from. However, at least for me, your arrogance gets in the way at times.
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Well Larry you have the right to dismiss everything I say. I have the right to dismiss the advice or comments of many other officials on this site and I do that all the time. But when I talk to younger officials and run classes for younger officials, the questions do not surround the 8th grade championship. It revolves around how they can get better and how to they work the games that are assigned by the varsity assignors and how they get college opportunities and HS playoff opportunities. If that is arrogant to state that, then that is just something you are going to have to deal with. I am not here to make everyone happy and say the things to make you feel better about yourself. Officiating is a competitive hobby, where people want to know what it takes to move up the ranks and get the recognition as a good official. I have helped train many younger officials and I never see the official that wants to be the 8th grade championship official step up and do that kind of training to make officiating better. Nor do we let officials that have not accomplished certain things just speak or step to the forefront. If I am arrogant, everyone that is in a leadership role in any group I belong to is arrogant. I cannot name one official that does not share similar attitudes about those kinds of games as I do and the comparison you gave.
Peace