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Originally posted by Maverick
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by Maverick
First, I would also contend that the first time the player lost control of the ball it isn't a try. According to 4-40-2 (in part),
"A player is trying for goal when the player has the ball and in the official's judgement is throwing or attempting to throw for a goal."
I don't think a foul causing you to lose control of the ball constitues throwing for a goal.
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Hold it right there. You just described a common foul above, as per R4-19-2. If you have a common foul, then the ball is dead immediately, as per rule 6-7-7. If the ball is dead, howinthehell can you now have a shooting foul AFTER the ball became dead?
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I don't believe this is a common foul. 4-19-2:
"A common foul is a personal foul which is neither flagrant nor intentional nor committed against a player trying or tapping for a field goal nor part of a double, simultaneous or a multiple foul."
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Then exactly what kind of foul is it? You guys both said that it wasn't a "try", didn't you. Your exact words above are "I would also contend that the first time the player lost control of the ball, it ISN'T a try". So go ahead and tell me exactly what kind of foul it now is if it's not committed against a player making a try.
[Edited by Jurassic Referee on Jan 28th, 2005 at 04:01 PM]