Wed Jan 26, 2005, 01:35pm
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Originally posted by Nevadaref
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Originally posted by RookieDude
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Originally posted by Nevadaref
The main thing that you guys are losing sight of is that a team MUST have FIVE PLAYERS in the game unless all other team members are disqualified, hurt, or ill.
This requirement 3-1-1 overrides any other argument that has been made in this thread.
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I thought you said they also had to be eligible.
That's what this whole debate seems to be hinging on.
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Actually, all I did was quote the definition of a TEAM MEMBER. The rule contains that phrase.
4-34-4 A team member is a member of bench personnel who is in uniform and is eligible to become a player.
All this means is that this team member has not been previously disqualified and thus barred from further participation. It has nothing to do with the scorebook. Don't make that leap.
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Originally posted by RookieDude
Is a player eligible just because he is sitting on the bench in the school's uniform?
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YES. He has met the definition of a team member, and as long as he is not a disqualified player 4-14-1, he is eligible. That is all that is required by the NFHS Rules Book.
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Originally posted by RookieDude
If we, as officials, see a player in uniform...do we have to assume he is eligible?
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ABSOLUTELY! The converse assumption would be ridiculous as we would have to assume that the entire team was ineligible until they were proven eligible. That's not the way it works.
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Originally posted by RookieDude
As Camaron said...these questions are not addressed in our rule book. I believe they would be administrative issues with the school and/or state.
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Right. As an official on the court, you can't possibly know all the other stuff that goes on off it. Therefore, you keep it simple.
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Kid on the bench in uniform won some school contest to dress and sit with the team on the bench. Is that an eligible player?
The 48 year-old assistant coach is in a uniform. Eligible player?
The coaches 8 year-old son is on the bench and in uniform. Is he an eligible player?
By your definitions, these are all eligible.
Are you really going to force the coach to put an 8 year-old or 48 year-old into the game just because they're on the bench and have a uniform on.
Even if they were actually team members, all the coach has to do is tell them to remove thier shirt and they're no longer eligible by your interpretation.
As you said, you can't possibly know what is really going on. Keep it simple here. Coach says no eligible subs...there are no eligible subs.
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