Thu Jan 20, 2005, 05:07pm
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by BktBallRef
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Originally posted by Junker
In the play described, the player got the pass off before returning to the floor. Under 4-25-2 listed, the ruling specifies that it is a held ball if the player is prevented from completing the pass or try. In this case, the pass was completed. The pass was able to be thrown, how is it a held ball?
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Because, as 4.25.2 states, "A held ball results immediately..." As soon as the shot is prevented from being released, the held ball occurs. It makes no difference what happend after that.
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The complete case book play 4.25.2 says that A1 is jumping to try for goal or to pass the ball, and that B1 prevented A1 from releasing the ball.The RULING says that it's a held ball when airborne A1 is prevented from releasing the ball to pass or try for goal. In this particular sitch, B1 never prevented A1 from passing. If B1 hadda prevented A1 from passing as well as shooting, then I would say "yes, that's an immediate jump ball at the time when both are prevented.
Just can't agree with you on this one, Tony. Imo, this one isn't a violation until the airborne shooter is prevented from both shooting and passing, and he never was prevented from passing.
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JR -- In strict logic rules, the word "or" doesn't mean both, it means one only is good enough. "If you have a red coat, or green boots, you may enter the building" means that both people with red coat but no green boots, and people with no red coat but green boots will be in there. If the rule says that the defender prevents shot OR pass, that means only one need prevented to have the held ball.
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