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Old Wed Jan 19, 2005, 10:55am
cbfoulds cbfoulds is offline
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Originally posted by Dave Hensley
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Originally posted by cbfoulds
"I figured that if they were appealing, they saw something I didn't, so he must have done it" (referring to the leaving early and the missed base).

... is NOT a "training deficiency". Character defect is closer.

"Don't call what you don't see" is a very basic umpiring axiom, and taking correction from your assignor is basic good sense.
First, the phenomenon of being persuaded to uphold an appeal because (1) you didn't actually see the touch or miss, and (2) you reason since they appealed it, he must have missed it, is quite common among inexperienced umpires, when they're at their most pliable. It is easily correctable with the right feedback. "You're fired" is NOT the right feedback.
We are not in substantial disagreement, as witness the last paragraph of my earlier post [which you snipped]. My comment was based on the totality of the comments/ reasoning attributed to the ump in question, which seem to me to reflect more his attitude and character than his level of training or "pliability".

That said, we also were not there, and did not see the level and quality of play the ump was having to cope with; alone, no less.

I once banged a kid out on a pick @ 1B; and when he asked me (politely, I am well known in this league) between innings how he was out on that play, I told him: "'Cause otherwise we'd still be playing that same half-inning tommorrow at this time". Even that teenager recognised the response as appropriate [and, unfortunately, accurate] under the circumstances. It is possible that mcrowder might not approve.

mcrowder, despite having at least 2 games requiring solo coverage, apparently shares with Sandy Alderson the luxury of having more competent and available umpires than he [usually] needs. He can, therefore, afford to be a real hard@$$ about doing it his way with a minimum of handholding feedback. Remember, he did evaluate and correct [OK, "rant" at] his ump, and nothing apparently changed at the next evaluation opportunity. Would I like him to assign my games? Probably not: but I've done the assigning job, and it's hard enough without getting complaints from BOTH coaches [usually a good sign that SOMEthing was wrong] about a guy with a crummy attitude who will not take correction.


[Edited by cbfoulds on Jan 19th, 2005 at 11:03 AM]
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