Ok I have been thinking, which I know is of no consequence to anyone here, but I do it ocasionally LOL...I had to use the reversey psycology approach....If A1 is dribbling near the three point line and B1 commits a blocking foul, and when we blow the whistle A1 throws the ball up toward the hoop, we have to judge whether or not it was a try...usually it isn't even though the final act appears that way...so with that in mind I guess I can see giving the kid 2 shots even though he passed.....wow it sure is cool over here away from the dark side