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Old Mon Jan 17, 2005, 11:24pm
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Originally posted by Back In The Saddle
First of all, I believe you were thinking of 9-1-9, not 9-1-8.
Yep. I hit the wrong key there, thanks.

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Originally posted by Back In The Saddle
But neither is in effect until the ball is at the disposal of the free throw shooter.
I agree, BITS, and this only strengthens my argument. Unless the kid is doing something that constitutes an intentional or flagrant foul, he is NOT doing anything wrong! He is not fouling or violating during this dead ball period. So leave him alone!

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Originally posted by Back In The Saddle
By your logic, you shouldn't tell a player standing on the block or on the line to move off before you toss the ball to the shooter. Because, until the free throw restrictions are in effect, it's legal for him to be there, right? And that would be telling a player not to do something that is legal, right?
Correct for the third time, and I don't.

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You communicate with the players to get them into a legal position for what is about to happen next.
I communicate with the players through my required mechanics after calling a foul or a violation. I tell them to "line up" or "take your spots" and 2 shots or 1 shot on free throws. And I'll give other necessary information such as a response to a captain on a rules question. Otherwise, I don't talk to the players. I certainly don't coach them.

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Originally posted by Back In The Saddle

You warn throwers that they have a spot, you warn defenders not to reach through the plane on a throw-in. You warn players in all kinds of situations, fouls and violations, dead ball and live ball, to keep them from doing something you'll have to penalize them for. It's preventive officiating and game management.
Nope. I definitely do not do those things. I consider that to be the coach's job. It is up to him to make sure that his players know what is legal and what is not. I simply administer the game. (I will give a signal for end line running.) If the player is doing something that is illegal and it creates an advantage/disadvantage, I just penalize it. That is my duty.
What you call preventive officiating and game management, I call coaching, and believe that is not the proper role for an official.

But I hope that what you do works for you and brings you success. I just have a different method of operating. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.


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