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Originally posted by DownTownTonyBrown
I think you are sorely mistaken about liability and I hope that you never find out that you really are. I'm not a lawyer but for me it is extremely simple to follow the line of responsibility and say that one of the officials is trained and certified, and that particular official allowed someone else who is not trained, and who is not certified to officiate. Therefore, the trained official is ultimately responsible. I think even the simplest of lawyers would also say the assigner has some responsibility for making the assignment.
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I can only speak for the insurance I have. I looked at the exclusions in the policy that I hold. It says nothing about my partner being licensed or not. It only talks about the covered party, which would be me or anyone else that holds the policy. It does not see anything that about who you work with or who you do not work with. I think what I am asking you is very legitimate. How are you going to be held responsible or not covered in insurance when you have no responsibility for who you work with? Even if I show up in the proper uniform does not mean I have a license or not. There are people where I live that have a license for a long time and all of a sudden to not pay their dues or fulfill the requirements to maintain their license (attending rules meetings, attending clinics every 3 years, passing the Part 1 Exam every year). And my state has a website so that we can verify people that are licensed. But that requirement is only for IHSA Member teams, not AAU or Rec. ball or any youth league that applies. No where in the insurance does it put that kind of requirement that licensed officials work games.
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Originally posted by DownTownTonyBrown
For you to say that you could pick anyone out of the stands and say "Yeah, come on down and officiate with me. Here's a whistle. I hope your home owner's insurance is good because I'm not covering your butt and your bad calls. You're on your own. When the situations get thick, you're still on your own." And those statements, or that situation, and you would be beyond responsibility for the overall contest is ridiculous. Nothing you can say, will absolve you of your responsibility.
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I do not pick them. I go to the site and whoever is there I work with. They might not even be the same people that were on my original contract. All I know is the person I am working with has patches and is allowed to work this game. I might say something later to an assignor if I find out or know that someone is not licensed. I cannot verify that until I get home or near a computer. But I do work the game. It is also not like there have never been mistakes at our office either where something is not listed properly on our website.
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Originally posted by DownTownTonyBrown
Ooh and Jeff, I always get a really jolly laugh out of your confrontational posts and that you sign off with "Peace." Yeah same to you. Good luck. You're on your own.
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What did I say to you that was confrontational? I asked you a question for understanding when officials are not the people that decide who works the games. Asking you a question is confrontational? You are talking about an issue in an insurance policy (I hold one too) that I have never seen. I work with insurance in my regular job and I have never heard of such an issue where an unsuspecting individual would know the type of coverage another individual and would be liable for the actions of another human being and they are in the same place. I would understand if an assignor was liable or the school, they have something to do with the official being there. A fellow official is just there doing their job. If I work for a contractor to do one aspect of a job and another person is hired to do another job for the same contractor, why would I be responsible if I am unaware of the expertise or licenses of the contractor that I did not personally hire?
BTW, the "Peace" is just a salutation. It does not mean what it did in the 1960s when people were smoking weed and snorting LSD and acid. It is just a way to say goodbye. It is very commonly used amongst people that are used to current pop culture. It has nothing to do with a war or opposition to the government. It is just salutation.
