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Old Tue Jan 11, 2005, 02:37pm
mcrowder mcrowder is offline
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I'm at a loss to try to understand why, in this specific case, you feel compelled to rule in contradiction to the rules. I just don't get it. I can restate my position ad infinitum, but it's just that - repeating. I'll try one last time.

You both keep quoting a rule that says if the ball hits the pylon, it's out of bounds in the endzone when it hits the pylon. Great. So what? It was already out of bounds. Let me say it this way. Say, for instance, that the pylon is missing, or that in this play, the ball never hits the pylon. Player A11 dives (airborne) from the 2, with the ball going out at the 2, and lands, ball-first- 2 feet out of bounds, 1 yard past the goal line. By rule, when the ball hits the ground 2 feet out of bounds, it's out of bounds beyond the endline (just exactly like the pylon rule you keep quoting). Right? But you don't overrule logic in this case - you put the ball at the 2, where it went out of bounds. By rule. Why? Because it went OUT OF BOUNDS before it went ACROSS THE GOAL LINE.

ABoselli - why can't we spot the ball at the .0001 yard line, if that's where it belongs? That particular sentence makes no sense at all. If a player is fighting for the end zone in the middle of the field, and ends up half an inch short of the goalline, you spot it right there - half an inch short. By your logic, you're giving him a TD.

You keep also asking where to spot the ball. You spot it exactly where you would have spotted it had the player missed the pylon entirely --- AT THE POINT WHERE THE BALL WENT OUT OF BOUNDS.

The existence of the pylon does not change the dimensions of the field or the rules by which we should rule in this case. The rule you are quoting is not applicable here, as the play was over prior to the ball hitting the pylon. The rule you are quoting tells us what to do when the ball hits the pylon, but was otherwise not yet dead. Why, oh, why, do you want to use this to make live a ball that was previously dead.

Neither of you told me what you'd do in the case of the guy reaching back from 2 feet out of bounds to graze the outside of the pylon. By your logic, you're giving that guy a TD too, but that makes no sense at all either.
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