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Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
Somebody, anybody:
Please tell BZ to take a Valium and go back and read my posts in this thread.
MTD, Sr.
BZ:
Go back and read your first post. You made a statement that was not correct. Now read the rest of my posts. I have answered your question like I said I would and gave you an example of an intentional foul where no contact is involved. Of course the intentional foul has to be a technical foul if no contact is involved. But read your first post, you stated, and I quote you once again: "An intentional foul may or may not be a technical foul, but is ALWAYS a contact foul, 4-19-3." That is not a true statement.
MTD, Sr.
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Let's also re-read 4-19-3. The first 9 words are interesting.
An intentional foul is a PERSONAL or technical foul...
Now let's look at 4-19-1, a PERSONAL foul is a player foul which involves illegal CONTACT.
That sure seems to say that an intentional foul NEEDS to have contact.
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No, it doesn't by the definitions you just gave. It leaves open the possibility of a Intentional Technical foul, which does not have to involve contact.
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What does OR mean?
An intentional foul is a LIVE ball personal foul. A live ball non-contact foul is an intentional TECHNICAL foul. Dead ball contact is an intentional or flagrant TECHNICAL foul.
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BZ:
NFHS R4-S19 tells us that contact fouls that occur while the ball is live are personal fouls, and that contact fouls that occur while the ball is dead or non-contact fouls that occur whether the ball is dead or live are technical fouls.
NFHS R4-S19-A3 defines what is an intentional foul.
Depending upon whether the ball was live or dead and whether there was contact or not at the time of the foul determines whether the foul is personal or technical.
Now once more, take a deep breathe, get out a good bottle of Asti Spumonti and re-read my posts in this thread.
MTD, Sr.