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Originally posted by Redhouse BJV game. Table sounds horn and beckons me to the table. They tell me that 32 for the home team was not in the book. 32 was in the game and had already been replaced when they notified me of this. I told the table that since it was not caught until after he had become a player then he could not be penalized unless he came into the game again and we are notified at the time he enters the game. Correct me if I am wrong on that part.
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Ok, consider yourself corrected. 2-11-1 tells us that one of the duties of the scorer is to keep a record of the names and numbers of players who are to start the game and of all substitutes who enter. Once the team member has participated, the scorebook must reflect this. Even if that means only checking the box for the quarter in which that person played. So if they aren't in the book, they must be added to it. The scorer should have caught this when the kid first subbed into the game. What this tells me is that the scorer is not doing his job properly. As the R you need to put this into your pregame chat with the scorer.
Besides the correct and good advice that Tony (BktBallRef) gave there is also something relevant to this on Page 14 of the Simplified and Illustrated book. It states that if a substitute reports to enter, but is wearing the wrong number, the coach may choose to have the team member not enter, thus avoiding a technical foul since no change is required to the scorebook.
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Originally posted by Redhouse
The next part I drew a blank on the penalty. The home coach choose to go ahead and put him back in the game and get the T out of the way. Is this a team technical? Does it count toward bonus or indirectly to the coach. We did not charge it directly to the player or coach or towards the bonus. We shot 2 FT's and gave the visitors the ball. Was all of that correct. Should we have marked it somewhere in the book? Thanks in advance.
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Others have told you the correct penalty, but I'll repeat it and give you the rules references.
Your play is a violation of 3-2-2b. The scorer is required to add a name to the team member list after the 10-minute mark.
You will find the penalty under TEAM TECHNICAL in 10-1-2b. It is stated that this is penalized when it occurs. Meaning at the time the scorer is required to add the name, even if this should have been done earlier, as in your game, but was neglected. I also agree with Tony that if a change is made and the officials aren't told or don't penalize it right then, there can be no penalty assessed later.
Lastly, all technical fouls that have to do with changing the scorebook are known as ADMINISTRATIVE technical fouls. They are listed in the first box on Page 73 of the Rules Book. You will see there that it is charged to the team, counts toward the team-foul count for the bonus, but is NOT assessed indirectly to the HEAD coach.
Hopefully, this situation will serve as a good learning experience for you and the next time that it happens you will know the proper procedure. Best wishes.
