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Originally posted by Back In The Saddle
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Originally posted by BktBallRef
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Originally posted by Back In The Saddle
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Originally posted by ref18
In this situation does B1 have to have LGP before A1 is airborne, or does that not matter with the pass and crash??
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B1 cannot take away A1's landing spot after he's airborne, whether he has the ball or not. That would be a block whether B1 had previously obtained LGP or not.
Assuming that B1 did not move into airborne A1's landing spot, LGP or not, B1 is entitled to his spot on the floor. If A1 initiates the contact by crashing into B1, any foul is going to be on A1.
In short, I don't see how LGP affects this play either way.
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Huh? 
LGP is most definitely affects the play.
If B1 has obtained LGP before A1 leaves the floor, the foul is on A1.
If he gets to the spot after A1 leaves the floor, then he does not have LGP and it's a block.
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Okay, assuming A1 runs over B1 while A1 is airborne. - If B1 DID have LGP and was already on the spot before A1 went airborne, foul on A1.
- If B1 DID NOT have LGP, but was already on that spot before A1 went airborne, foul on A1.
- If B1 DID have LGP, but moved to the spot after A1 went airborne, foul on B1.
- If B1 DID NOT have LGP, and moved to the spot after A1 went airborne, foul on B1.
I don't see how LGP is particularly relevant to this call. The determining factor really is: Was B1 on that spot before A1 went airborne or not?
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TO some extent, we're talking semantics. But LGP does have an affect on this play. The only situation that you listed would be where B1 is on the spot prior to A1 leaving the floor but was not facing A1. This could be a foul on A1. The other three scenarios are automatically a foul or not a foul, based on whether LGP existed or not.
Bottom line, if B! did not obtain LGP on the spot prior to A1 leaving the floor, it's a PC. THat is true no matter what happened prior to the contact.