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First off, get a copy of J/R. Very informative and helpfull. Send $25, which includes shipping and handling to,Rick Roder
P.O. Box 2
Remsen, IA. 51050
Second, Of course I have a copy but I do not agree with the ruling, along with Major League Baseball, OBR, my interpreter and my Association. Minor league ball and NCAA ball have accepted it. I don't do either.
The B/R can never, ever, be put out on a force play, never. However, if you accept it, no run scores and if you don't, the run scores.
Their have been a lot of bizzare sitches to show this play. Take this one, it is more realistic.
Sitch, R3 and R2, 3 and 2 on the batter and 2 outs, OBR.
(Originaly I inadvertently had bases loaded, I have corrected that, sorry for the mixup.)G.
R3 is coming in on the windup. B hits a one hopper to F6, R3 scores then F6 tags out R2 in the baseline for the third out. B/R sees the third out and heads for the dugout before reaching first. F6 throws the ball to F3 who tags first and appeals to YOU for the fourth out to nullify the run. It's your call.
It's just a bone head play by F6, he should know better. I am not going to consider the appeal, score the run.
Third, If the runner reached but missed the bag on that play, before the ball arrived, it's a different can of worms.
If the runner missed the bag and then ran THROUGH it and is subsequently tagged or appealed out, the run would not score.
However, if the runner ROUNDED the base, heading for second, without touching it and is tagged out scrambling back, the run would score in OBR.
However, the run wouldn't score in Minor League ball as the NAPBL/PBUC has recently ruled that they will allow an appeal to the missed base for the fourth out. I don't think the NCAA has caught up to the PBUC yet on that ruling.
The OBR does not allow two outs by the same runner on the same base. Now the Minor Leagues do. Hey, who said it was going to be easy. G.
[Edited by Gee on May 4th, 2001 at 12:42 AM]
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