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Old Wed Dec 15, 2004, 02:49pm
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Originally posted by ChuckElias

My point is if we are quick enough to alert everybody that the ball isn't live, and we don't allow people to play as though it were live, then we can reasonably say that the ball never was live. If it never was live, then we just pick up where we left off, which obviously (in my very humble opinion) is the right thing to do. [/B]
OK....let's go to your 2-step scenario.

Score is B64 A62. A1 is on the line for 1/1 with 1.8 seconds to go in the game, but it should actually be 2 shots. A1 misses, B1 rebounds, takes 2 steps/dribbles......and the horn goes to end the game. Scorer now says "Oopsie, shoulda been 2 shots, guys. We owe A1 another shot. Now there's 2 ways to handle this, right? (1)The "R2-10" way and (2)the patented and trademarked "Chuckie Way".

(1)"The R2-10 way"-- The rules say that it is a correctable error and A1 does have a merited FT coming(R2-10-1a & R2-10-2). But R2-10-5 says that you can't put any time back on the clock- so the game is over. Also, under R2-10-6, seeing that there was a change of possession to team B, the ball should go back to the POI. Either way, there shouldn't be any players allowed on the lanes anyway(R8-1-3) for the merited 2nd. FT. But.....Rule 5-6-3EXCEPTION says that you don't shoot a FT after the game is over if that FT doesn't affect the outcome of the game. Ergo....no merited FT shot and final score is B64 A62.

(2) "Chuckie Way"--- Same scenario...A1 misses 1st FT.... B1 rebounds and horn goes....scorer goes "Oopsie" again. But Chuckie says "NOPE, IT'S A DO-OVER" and he puts 1.8 seconds back on the clock, lines the player up along the lanes(you can't use POI to B because you don't use 2-10 in Chuckie's Way) and gives A1 his second, merited FT. A1 misses, but A2 rebounds and throws up a shot that goes in at the buzzer. And....the Lead(JR- who isn't afraid to make the tough call- and hardly ever misses one) also calls a foul by B2 on A2's shot. Count the basket, put A2 on the line for 1 FT with the lanes empty.....and.....A2 makes it. Game over. Final score A65 B64.

And if anybody ever questions the "Chuckie Way", just tell them that the ball was never live after the first missed FT, so we just picked up where we left off- because that's the right thing to do.

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